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Offline Jim Thompson

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  • 1946 Cadillac model 61 fastback
Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2009, 06:23:21 PM »
I don't know the width, but these tires are the old Mobil nylon ones put on many decades ago:

1946 Cadillac model 61 fastback

Offline Whit Otis, 1188

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2009, 07:19:18 PM »
These are Yokohama Truck tires from Diamond Back;  750 R16.  The whitewall band is 3.75" and I had the beauty rings put on at extra cost.  Unfortunately I don't have any close ups that show this feature, but I think it was money well spent.

It is often wrongly assumed that cars of the 30's and 40's had these huge wide whitewalls, but in fact, these are often incorrect, depending on the year.  Also, many large series Cadillac's of 30's and 40's were shipped with black walls.  Sometimes the cars had the chrome work painted rather than plated.... this was apparently very common in the Philadelphia area where the wealthy were extremely conservative.  Sometimes at car shows you may overhear someone say "how Philadelphia that car looks"  and they are generally referring to a large luxury car that has black tires and other features purposely toned down.

Whit
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Offline EAM 17806

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2009, 08:16:42 PM »
Are these what you're talking about?

http://www.cadillacworld.net/CadillacKelseyHayesWheelsForSale.html

$2150 for a set! Holy Smokes

They say that 48 spokes are closer to original but I think the originals only had 40 spokes. So my question is this; If they aren't exactly authentic, why are they talking down about the competition's 52 spoke version?

It seems to me that as long as you're making a wheel that isn't exactly authentic, wouldn't more spokes be better?

Coker sells 52 spoke versions for $430 each. That's $1720.

http://store.coker.com/wheels/wire-wheels/

That's $430 you can use for gasoline or to get an extra one for a spare.

No matter whose you buy, they are a  to keep clean and nice all the time.
  OTTO!  Be careful, your verbiage is getting inappropriate; there are ladies reading your posts too.  EAM
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Offline STEVE CLC #16187

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2009, 10:24:34 PM »
I don't mean to get off the subject but can someone tell me what is/was the correct tire size and whitewall width for a 1959 Cadillac?  Also, has anyone delt with Doc Sabatino?  Any input on the Mac Daddy wheels/rims?



Domer I bought 4 wire wheels from Doc Sabatino about 3 years ago and I love them, very high quality, Very nice guy deal with . Price was about the same as all of hem, And, they are easy to keep clean, spray them with water and wipe them off, You won't regret dealing with Doc.

steve

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Offline Otto Skorzeny

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2009, 07:21:15 AM »
I guess I should have been more specific. Wires are fine for a show car but any amount of daily driver or part time driver use will fill the nooks and crannies with road grime and brake dust.

It is a lot more work to keep wires looking good than it is to keep hubcaps clean. I've had wires before and if you get lazy cleaning them, they ugly up fast.



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Offline Barry Norman

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2009, 07:26:52 AM »
Replaced my original 721's with these Cokers-- so far , so good !
Barry Norman

Offline caddykid60

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2009, 07:45:10 AM »
Hi.

My 1960 Fleetwood rides on US Royal Bias Ply tires with 2 1/4" white walls.
Mike Kelley
1960 Cadillac Fleetwood Sixty Special
1990 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham D'Elegance
1991 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Wagon

Offline Barry M Wheeler #2189

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2009, 08:40:28 AM »
Jeff, my car had the black metallic nylon in back against the white leather. The front insert had been replaced with a plainer black nylon. A guy stopped me on the street and I ended up tradingmy 41-6127 for it as I needed a more modern driver. The only thing bad was the guy "neglected" to tell me he had been towing a boat at high speeds and had been pouring transmission fluid in by the case. So, I paid for a rebuild on the transmission right off. But, we drove it for several years after that.
Barry M. Wheeler #2189
1941 Cadillac Series 60 Special (6019S)

Offline jaxops

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2009, 06:39:43 AM »
To me, whitewalls evoke style, grace, and elegance. Since most modern cars lack those traits, it is no wonder that whitewalls are no longer used by manufactureres.

You have nailed it my Friend!!
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1956 Cadillac Series 75 Limousine
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Offline Payton1960

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2009, 04:39:56 PM »


Domer I bought 4 wire wheels from Doc Sabatino about 3 years ago and I love them, very high quality, Very nice guy deal with . Price was about the same as all of hem, And, they are easy to keep clean, spray them with water and wipe them off, You won't regret dealing with Doc.

steve



I have also purchased a set from Doc Sab... He is a nice guy to deal with. I loved them. I also purchased a set from Coker already mounted and balanced... They started to rust in about 10 months and they did not stand behind their product.. They would not replace it. I would tell you BUY THEM FROM DOC SAB.. you get what you pay for. He talks smack about the other wheels because they are not built with the same quality his are by far better built. 

Rick Payton
Austin, TX
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1955 Cadillac Eldorado
1955 Cadillac Coupe Deville
1955 Cadillac Series 62 Sedan with AC
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Offline Glen

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2009, 02:37:19 AM »
Someone sent me a power point slide show of the Chinese 60th anniversary parade.  I saw a lot of the military vehicles have wide white wall tires and I thought of this thread. 


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Offline jaxops

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2009, 06:21:38 AM »
Glen,

  That is amazing.  Where else, except soviet Russia perhaps, would you see whitewalls on a mobile missile launcher?  Those commies have some class!!  I wonder if they are factory-correct?  Can we get an AACA judgement?  >:D
1970 Buick Electra Convertible
1956 Cadillac Series 75 Limousine
1989 Ford Crown Victoria Station Wagon
1997 Lincoln Town Car
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Offline S Passmore

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2009, 02:40:23 PM »
How about these pupies fellas, 750x16 Lesters with 5" WW

Offline domer

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2009, 10:56:42 PM »
Thanks Otto. Sorry it took me so long to reply.  I've been pretty busy lately. My wife just gave birth to our second girl. Born October 20 at 4am.  Name is Bella Ann. I want to post a pic of the little one real soon.

Are these what you're talking about?

http://www.cadillacworld.net/CadillacKelseyHayesWheelsForSale.html

$2150 for a set! Holy Smokes

They say that 48 spokes are closer to original but I think the originals only had 40 spokes. So my question is this; If they aren't exactly authentic, why are they talking down about the competition's 52 spoke version?

It seems to me that as long as you're making a wheel that isn't exactly authentic, wouldn't more spokes be better?

Coker sells 52 spoke versions for $430 each. That's $1720.

http://store.coker.com/wheels/wire-wheels/

That's $430 you can use for gasoline or to get an extra one for a spare.

No matter whose you buy, they are a  to keep clean and nice all the time.
Dominique #24943

Offline domer

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2009, 11:00:31 PM »
Thanks for the input on Doc's wheels. I have yet to purchase a set of wheels from anyone. As mentioned earlier, my second baby girl was born a couple of weeks ago and I've been really busy with the new addition.

I have also purchased a set from Doc Sab... He is a nice guy to deal with. I loved them. I also purchased a set from Coker already mounted and balanced... They started to rust in about 10 months and they did not stand behind their product.. They would not replace it. I would tell you BUY THEM FROM DOC SAB.. you get what you pay for. He talks smack about the other wheels because they are not built with the same quality his are by far better built. 

Rick Payton
Austin, TX

Dominique #24943

Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2009, 01:10:02 PM »
Here's my 47 with Firestone 700x15 bias-ply, 4" whitewalls.

Dave Leger     1947 6207 Club Coupe

Offline srk1941

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2009, 11:30:03 AM »
Here is my '41 Convertible Coupe, with Firestone bias ply 700 x 15 tires, with a 4" whitewall
Steven Keylon
1941 Cadillac Convertible Coupe
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Offline coopers59

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2010, 10:24:49 PM »
Mine came with older bias ply's but I switched them to 235/75R15 Diamond Back Michelin X.  I couldn't decide between 3" and 3.5" so I had them made at 3.25" as a compromise! 

Cooper

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Offline RobW

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2010, 07:15:49 PM »
Here's my 73 with 1.6" American Classic Radials
Rob Wirsing

Offline Aeroman (Juan Ramirez)

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Re: Show me your whitewalls!
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2010, 03:19:37 PM »




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