Author Topic: 1970 Fleetwood rear spring heights  (Read 200 times)

Peter J CLC #25678

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1970 Fleetwood rear spring heights
« on: March 12, 2010, 02:18:32 PM »
Can anyone help with this?

I've just installed a new set of rear springs on my '70 Fleetwood, car has rear self levelling suspension. Moog supplied a set of springs, which when using the factory height measurements are just over an inch to high. The car definately sits high at the rear.

Can anyone tell me what the factory length of the spring should be so I can take one out and measure it?
Moog are not interested in replacing the springs, as they say they have never received a compliant before and they must be correct!

Does anyone know of an alternative supplier who can sell me the correct height ones if mine prove to be too long?

Thanks.....

Offline Otto Skorzeny

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Re: 1970 Fleetwood rear spring heights
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2010, 02:43:11 PM »
I think your springs might just need a chance to settle. Your car is very heavy and gravity works fast on these beasts.

When I installed new heavy duty springs in my car it sat up unusually high. It was down to normal height within a year.
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Offline Owen Nacker

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Re: 1970 Fleetwood rear spring heights
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2010, 06:35:20 AM »

 Years ago when these cars were more popular, many of them had the rear springs replaced because the ALC no longer worked, and the rear would sag when loaded. It was a much cheaper option to install springs for a car without ALC, or even the Cargo Coils that were popular at the time.

 I also replaced the rear springs on my '75 CDV with these Cargo Coils.

 The cars always sat higher on the rear with these springs.

 Now, if you replaced with the correct rate springs for a car with ALC, the car will likely sit a bit lower than the factory trim height. Originally these springs were not strong enough to carry the weight of the rear of the car themselves when even there was a full tank of gas. The ALC was to compensate for that. There is a small amount of adjustment available on the level sensor arm to set correct ride height.

 So, assuming that the correct rate springs for the car have been installed, and the ALC on the car functions as intended, then you should be able to set the rear ride height by adjusting the level sensor arm if you are within an inch of the correct trim height.

 Mike
1970 Fleetwood Brougham 68169
1985 Eldorado Coupe 6EL57
1988 Eldorado Biarritz 6EL57
1990 Brougham d'Elegance 6DW69
1994 Fleetwood Brougham 6DW69

Offline Kevin Bielinski #13320

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Re: 1970 Fleetwood rear spring heights
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2010, 04:12:19 PM »
Worse thing I ever did for my ride height was to install a set of Moog's in the rear of my '70. The back is jacked up and has been that way for the last 12 years/10K miles. The Moogs are not the correct spring rate at all. I'd go to Kantor and see what they have to offer. Eventually I will change the springs back. I lost the ride with the Moog's. It's like a rock now

Offline Owen Nacker

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Re: 1970 Fleetwood rear spring heights
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2010, 06:49:19 AM »

 You are right. The rear on my '75 rode very hard.

 Mike
1970 Fleetwood Brougham 68169
1985 Eldorado Coupe 6EL57
1988 Eldorado Biarritz 6EL57
1990 Brougham d'Elegance 6DW69
1994 Fleetwood Brougham 6DW69